Definitely don't accept the offer. FAST offers commercial-off-the-shelf (COTS) software that helps agencies reduce costs, improve service to constituents, maximize revenues and improve the efficiency of internal operations. The starting salary of $80,000 (plus an adjustment if they move you to a high cost of living place), $6k relocation bonus (as well as paying for your entire move), $5k profit sharing bonus for the first year, with full insurance coverage (no premiums paid by employees), decent holiday (10 vacay + 10 sick + gov’t holidays), and a 4 week sabbatical after 4 years, are all amazing.
I will say that your observations on GlassDoor are 100% accurate. Good money to reel you in and then ruin your career prospects by making you, for all practical purposes, useless for employment at any other tech company.
edit on 4/24/2020: I'm no longer involved with FAST and wrote this when I was which may reflect my anger, which has subsided now that I have a job I'm much happier with.
This individual was the leading technical position on my project and dictated development practices in standards, but didn't know what a class was. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. If you don’t drink the Kool-aid, which they practically waterboard you with, you’re probably not going to be a great fit at the company and will leave within 2 years. You are 100% right-- I used to work there and this is 100% right. https://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Fast-Enterprises-EI_IE241404.11,27.htm, I've looked on Glassdoor but the figures range from 54000-140000 with an average of 80 something, I was looking for more of an exact new hire number, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the ITCareerQuestions community. So they would just give you an adjustment equivalent to x% of your salary if you’re going to a city that’s x% more expensive then Denver? While you are there, constantly push for more challenging work - don't settle for what is given to you. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Perhaps I should have seen that it wasn’t actually a coding job from the beginning.
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), More posts from the cscareerquestions community. We were discouraged from talking about the lavish free meals, week conference/vacation and of course our compensation level. First off, Fast Enterprises is a consulting company for revenue, motor vehicle, and unemployment insurance government agencies for ~30 US states with several national locations. Press J to jump to the feed. What makes this all the more crazy is, again as you mentioned, the people in this company are generally pretty awesome. A class! Can you believe it?
Senior engineers at the state aren't paid what intro staff are. Also, do any past/present implementation consultants have advice on keeping up their technical skills while at Fast?
FAST is not an innovative company (did the VB.NET usage foreshadow this?). If money is all you want from a job, then this is the perfect company for you! You can’t even merge conflicting edits. The thing is it wasn't even that persons fault. Anyone who has more than a first-year CS education is way overqualified for the job.
I've thought many times about writing my own review but I know it'd get lost in all the five star, kool-aid fueled nonsense. Just that in the end I accepted the offer because I didn't have any better offers and I don't feel I was deceived. WTH is “fast enterprises”? During my training, a member of the technical team (who oversees the core development and architecture of the software) forgot the name of Git. In my state and many, that's their own legislature's fault because they don't understand investment in tech but lol contracting out your entire CS department is expensive.
I currently work as a software engineer with another business. In actuality you are mostly modifying existing software via a GUI with about 5% “programming” in an obscure and questionably functional codebase, learning next to no transferable technical skills.
Oh haha didn’t think to provide context about the company since my question was directed towards past/current employees. The longer you stay the more useless you become! (For example, I looked up how much higher the cost of living in Boston is than in Denver, and results ranged from 20% to 35%.
What are raises like if you stay with the company?
Basically, Fast owns commercial off-the-shelf software for managing revenue, driver/vehicle, and unemployment services, and it adds configurations to those systems for different government agencies across the country and around the world. The impact I get to have and the people i work with for sure keep me here. Focus on improving yourself, so that you can escape the situation you are in. I hadn't thought about the relocation thing (my location is at least kind of near a sort-of-tech hub and I have options available), but if you get sent to Bismarck or Montpelier then good luck. Press J to jump to the feed. Sure, I’m not asking them to adopt Rust or Go or some other modern technology, but I also think that if they used tools that are actually familiar to modern developers, they wouldn’t have to waste ~$8000 per IC on a 2.5 week training session familiarizing their devs with their proprietary BS. I believe in you. How did you handle getting references etc., doing interviews (I assume you didn't happen to live in a tech hub city so you had to travel for interviews), getting help with programming questions. Two were on a new site that was forcing 80 hour weeks and quit before the year was up.
I suppose you do get some exposure to a few relevant soft skills like learning how to interact with a client but any tangible programming skill is going to have to be self taught in your free time, which again takes a lot of motivation if you're on a busy project working 10+ hours a day and then have some semblance of a personal life to deal with. On top of this, FAST has some remarkable ability to hire incredibly great people I consider genuine friends. Totally skews the ratings and the awards that they so proudly like to tout to everyone. Like, literally couldn’t remember it. I asked HR once, but they just said I’d receive more information about the COLA for a specific site if I actually get placed there. A subreddit for those with questions about working in the tech industry or in a computer-science-related job. You can do better. I myself tried on many, many occasions to try and become an influencer within the company only to be shot down by micro-managing executives who want only to maintain the status quo. I’ve met very, very few people I dislike. Maybe I just got lucky though.
Presumably you didn't spend the whole of the 10 years working on side projects, or else you would have left a long time beforehand. a person dedicated to modernizing government technology to better serve the general public. The Kool-Aid is real and there are a lot of new grads they hire every year that are "enamored" by the company and encouraged to write positive reviews online. I'm really curious what the new hire salaries for implementation consultants are at FAST, I ask in person and no one will tell me... do all new hires get offered the same salary since most come in as new grads with no experience? I'm basically in the same position but I've been here for 3 years and had to spend some of that time in the bumfuck South where I felt like I was watching my career die every day. They use an extremely outdated programming language, a equally ancient architecture and on top of all that they have an extreme Not Invented Here syndrome.
Yes, the salary plus overtime pay is pretty good to start off at in most places in the country, but it is just not worth ruining your career over. You can't even claim you work on CRUD apps cause that would be an overstatement! wew. Doesn't help that HQ only has 30 developers. Just know that as you get older you will find, like I did, that the plethora of skills you miss out on aren't worth a fraction of all that extra salary. I looked for a lot of jobs while working with Fast and matching their salary was impossible. The catch is they pay you a lot because the job stinks. The money is not worth becoming completely irrelevant in your field. Their version control system is an extension of their product and was written in 2003. Don't use this website if you're looking to evaluate your career with them. They are truly exceptional. There are definitely ways to improve the technical side of the software, like code reviews, automated testing, etc., and I know you've brought those up before. The original product was written in VB6, and was rewritten sometime in the early- to mid-2000s to VB.NET, where it is today. It's al nice and fine that you're making 'nice' money now, but you also have to make sure that you can still make 'nice' money your next company. People at FAST have literally zero incentive to keep up with any modern going-ons of software. Hands down the best thing (and arguably the only good thing) about this job is the money and paid overtime. Basically, you can’t learn any kind of general technical skills here. My software engineering skills were way better when I was right out of school than they are after 2 years at this company. But it’s not worth taking your career back behind the barn and shooting it in the head. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Ironic since that's a pretty good salary for L/MCOL. FAST does not adopt any new technologies.
They told my training class to review our experiences with the company so far on Glassdoor within 2 days of starting training. AND DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE GLASSDOOR RATINGS AND REVIEWS. The benefits you find here WILL NOT be matched at any other company.
If you want to make a shitload of money and don't care how you feel doing then this is the job for you. The company really targets a specific person who drinks their Kool-aid, likes the not-very-technical aspects of the job, and will stick around. I say "can", because some (most?) Using the software takes dozens of hours of training in order to be halfway competent with it. Unfortunately I can't speak to your recruiting points since it was so long ago since I was recruited and the times have changed a lot since then. I feel lots of people would take such a job. Are you unable to land better offers after looking extensively/do you have a non-CS degree, and are you willing to do some consulting? From the IC side, which is done through the front end GUI, it’s even worse. FAST’s schtick is that it will take its commercial-off-the-shelf product(s) and configure it to meet the agency’s specific needs. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. This constant updating of the system will leave you feeling utterly exhausted trying to keep up while still being forced to essentially build a house using only a hammer, nails, and wood. I'm making this post in r/cscareerquestions because FAST mostly recruits fresh graduates who don't have much experience in the field, and that is the primary demographic of this subreddit.. tl;dr Fast Enterprises is a meat grinder for new graduates, misleading them with the promise of a “half development, half consulting” position and a Glassdoor rating inflated by Koolaid drinkers. For me personally, I feel like my recruiters were mostly accurate in their depiction of the position to me. I landed in an established site and only worked over 40hrs when they gave me extra work but I noticed there was an semi-fraught relationship between Fast and the state--Fast billed the state top tier wages while basically using the site as a training spot for new employees with LITERALLY no code experience. The CEO currently has a unbelievably high rating but I have found him (my opinion, may not be true) to be poor both in managing the company, their product and employees. If you aren't CS then maybe it's worth the money, which again is unreal.
Fast Enterprises pushes these reviews HEAVILY and they're almost all by people who have both little experience both with the company and with the industry in general.
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